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Pinging @RALFFPL: Regarding your revert, please show me where in this source it states there were 100,000 at the festival (let alone at their particular performance), and that it was their "largest performance as a festival headliner in the United States". I don't see it confirmed. --ZimZalaBimtalk17:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I linked the info once again - as the report says there were 100k people in attendance, and - as I perfectly know the history of Iron Maiden shows, they have never ever played for such a big audience in the States as headliner. I know we can't find this info straight out of the linked article, but it's kind of my personal analytic invention as an author of this part of Wiki info. There's an Iron Maiden site entitled Iron Maiden Italia and a few others where people concluded attendance figures and the fact Iron Maiden played their biggest headlining show in the States. For everyone who monitoring their tours, it's obvious. I must admit haven't seen a few days-long festival reports where the journalists shared info on how many people attended particular shows or days. Just think about Wacken Open Air, Rock Am Ring/Rock Im Park, or even Rock in Rio - the reports bring the general attendance data. It's just the standard. Nobody doesn't know how many people attended Power Trip 2023 on each show. The article shared by a reliable source as Louder Sound/Metal Hammer says the attendance figure that I mentioned. So, it's simple. Maybe I'm wrong but have never read on WIKI about festival performances with attendance reports describing the results of particular bands or days - just headlining performers. I thought it was obvious. And once again - if you want to change something in the articles, PLEASE talk about the problem with an AUTHOR. Deleting the data is so easy, and restoring that - is not. Regard RALFFPL (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Red-tailed hawk. I have had to revert plenty of edits in the Infobox section as IPs were removing Nicko McBrain from current members, although there has already been sources provided that he has retired from touring from the announcement. None of the sources provided mentions that he is no longer a member of the band. In regards to the band members section, there is already the article List of Iron Maiden band members that was covered on the touring and session members, and was reverting to tell them and go and see it there. In my opinion, touring members should not go in current members for the infobox or the band members section unless there are sources that confirm that they are official members of the band. HorrorLover555 (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new drummer of Iron Maiden is Simon Dawson (no relation with the Canadian politician Simon Dawson). See here for the official announcement, and here for a page reporting it. If Maiden has an official new drummer, we can surely say with confidence that yes, Nicko McBrain has left the band in full, not just in tours (meaning, he won't be recording new stuff with Maiden either). Cambalachero (talk) 15:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why you provide a source that disproves your own statement. Iron Maiden's official announcement says that Dawson will join them for 2025, meaning as a live musician.
Both the original statement by Nicko McBrain and the talk of Bruce Dickinson towards the audience in Brazil confirmed that Nicko McBrain continues to be a member of the band. TheVersion1 (talk) 17:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's exactly what I am saying. There are multiple sources that report that while he has retired from touring, he is still a member of Iron Maiden. Every other source on Simon Dawson says that he is a touring drummer. Unless there is a source that says "Nicko McBrain is no longer a member of Iron Maiden" among hundreds of sources that state that he retired from touring, that should not be changed. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the part "I will, however, remain firmly part of the Iron Maiden family working on a variety of projects, my long time managers, Rod Smallwood and Andy Taylor, have in mind for me."? That's a figure of speech. It means that he's not leaving because of a fight and stays in contact, not that he's still in the band. Note that he mentioned "the Iron Maiden family" he next mentioned Smallwood and Taylor, who are their friends and have been there behind-the-scenes during this time, but who are not actual members of the band (meaning, they play no instruments). And besides, you don't say "I wish the band much success moving forward" to a band you're still a member of.
I cited Billboard on random, just the first noteworthy page I found reporting this. And it says "In a statement shared on Sunday, Dec. 8, Iron Maiden have now revealed that drummer Simon Dawson will take on the role of drummer for the band moving forward", which is quite clear. Forbes says "Fans also need to keep in mind that when Nicko McBrain replaced Clive Burr, McBrain brought his own feel and a completely unique style to Iron Maiden. With Dawson now replacing McBrain, fans should expect the same to follow with Dawson’s drumming.". On the other hand, you understand that his choice of words means that he has only resigned from touring, and that he will keep recording Iron Maiden albums as usual. Which is quite a bold statement. Nick McBrain has not said that. Has any source said that? Cambalachero (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the part "I will, however, remain firmly part of the Iron Maiden family working on a variety of projects, my long time managers, Rod Smallwood and Andy Taylor, have in mind for me."? That is what I am talking about. It's further more proof that he is still a part of the band. You can be in a band and not tour, as there are members in other bands that still retain their members even if they don't tour. HorrorLover555 (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, right. Has anyone actually said that, directly and plainly? Because that would be a massively important clarification to do under those circumstances. He hasn't. With "The Iron Maiden family" he's not making reference to the band (the group of musicians who record albums, go on tours, film videoclips and all that) but to the bonds of friendship that have been generated between the members of the band and a pair of other friends. He's saying that he's still in that second group, which is all nice and good for him, but not the stuff we're discussing here. Cambalachero (talk) 18:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It goes both ways, in which he could be referring to both the band and the fandom. I stand by what I said that you can be a member of the band and not tour. For example, the band AC/DC. Their drummer Phil Rudd and bass player Cliff Williams are absent from their current tour, although Williams had made the decision not to go out on tour. Does that make them not members of the band? HorrorLover555 (talk) 18:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]